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Pozdrav svima,imam cmaxa prve generacije sa digitalnom klimom.I u zadnje vreme kad upalim klimu duva skoro pa se ni ne primeti,ne moze skoro ni da ohladi kabinu.A obicno kad stavim na AUTO i kad pritisnem AC ON ,krene da duva ventilator maksimalno, a u kabini nesto malo duva,primetio sam da i malo slabije duva kad se greje bez AC-a ali mnogo bolje nego klima,i tise.Sta bi mogao biti problem,nisam menjao tecnost za klimu zadnjih par godina.
Re: Problem sa klimom
Poslato: sreda, 8. maj 2019. u 21:52h
od Freez3r
Punjenje klime da uradis? Prva stvar koja mi pada na um
Re: Cmax - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: sreda, 8. maj 2019. u 21:57h
od Markedjani
a jel da bajamo u pasulj koje je godište taj cmax i koji motor ima taj cmax ?
...A obicno kad stavim na AUTO i kad pritisnem AC ON ,krene da duva ventilator maksimalno, a u kabini nesto malo duva,primetio sam da i malo slabije duva kad se greje bez AC-a ali mnogo bolje nego klima,i tise.Sta bi mogao biti problem,nisam proveravao tecnost zadnjih par godina.
Malo ti je konfuzan post.
Najpre, tecnost nema veze sa klimom. A malo je neozbiljno da par godina ne proveris koliko je ima. Za to vreme si bar mali servis trebao da odradis, i bar jednom da je zamenis.
To da krene jako da duva kada stavis na auto je sasvim normalno. Klima pokusava da postigne zadatu temperaturu sto je moguce brze (pitanje je koju si temperaturu zadao). Posto kada hladi, klima jako brzo startuje (hladnjak klime se "smrzne" u roku od nekoliko sekundi), automatika se trudi da sto pre postigne zadatu temperaturu, pa krece da uduvava koliko god moze. Kako se stvarna temperatura priblizava zadatoj, tako polako usporava ventilator.
Ono sto nije jasno je da ventilator radi na maksimumu, a u kabini nesto malo duva. Te dve stvari ne idu zajedno.
Drugo... da li grejes ili hladis? Klima ne ucestvuje u grejanju (osim sto regulise koliko greje). Ona iskljucivo hladi.
...A obicno kad stavim na AUTO i kad pritisnem AC ON ,krene da duva ventilator maksimalno, a u kabini nesto malo duva,primetio sam da i malo slabije duva kad se greje bez AC-a ali mnogo bolje nego klima,i tise.Sta bi mogao biti problem,nisam proveravao tecnost zadnjih par godina.
Malo ti je konfuzan post.
Najpre, tecnost nema veze sa klimom. A malo je neozbiljno da par godina ne proveris koliko je ima. Za to vreme si bar mali servis trebao da odradis, i bar jednom da je zamenis.
To da krene jako da duva kada stavis na auto je sasvim normalno. Klima pokusava da postigne zadatu temperaturu sto je moguce brze (pitanje je koju si temperaturu zadao). Posto kada hladi, klima jako brzo startuje (hladnjak klime se "smrzne" u roku od nekoliko sekundi), automatika se trudi da sto pre postigne zadatu temperaturu, pa krece da uduvava koliko god moze. Kako se stvarna temperatura priblizava zadatoj, tako polako usporava ventilator.
Ono sto nije jasno je da ventilator radi na maksimumu, a u kabini nesto malo duva. Te dve stvari ne idu zajedno.
Drugo... da li grejes ili hladis? Klima ne ucestvuje u grejanju (osim sto regulise koliko greje). Ona iskljucivo hladi.
Mislim na tecnost za klimu ili kako god se zove,proveravano je,ali navodno je dovoljno,radjen servis klime filter,itd,bez tecnosti ,ili kako god se to vec zove ,jer kao sto rekoh sve je navodno kako treba u tom segmentu.. Stavim npr na 18c dok je napolju 22 u autu nek bude 23-24,krene na maks da duva,dobrih 20m radi tako i dalje ga ne ohladi..A sto se tice grejanja napomenuo sam jer pritisnem Ac dugme da iskljucim klimu(ac off),jer i kad grejem auto dok pise ac on opet nesto slabo duva..
Re: Cmax '05 1.6 tdci - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: sreda, 8. maj 2019. u 23:43h
od Almighty.shO
"tecnost" za klimu se zove FREON!
Kad krene da duva, da li izlazi hladan vazduh ili topao? Kojom jacinom duva (slabo ili jako, posto kazes da je na max a to znaci da je upaljen AUTO mod na klimi i to je normalno jer kad dostigne zadatu temperaturu onda uskladi i brzinu duvanja).
Vreme je za detaljniji servis.
Taj sistem je prilicno slozen, i tesko je lepo opisati sta se desava u svim mogucim slucajevima, posto on prilagodjava svoj rad gomili parametara. A i da tacno opises, tu nema maltene nista sto mozes sam da odradis.
Vreme je za detaljniji servis.
Taj sistem je prilicno slozen, i tesko je lepo opisati sta se desava u svim mogucim slucajevima, posto on prilagodjava svoj rad gomili parametara. A i da tacno opises, tu nema maltene nista sto mozes sam da odradis.
U to verujem,ali sam hteo da vidim da li je mozda neko imao slican problem .I kako ga je resio,pre nego sto krenem da ga vozam kod elektro mehanicara ,itd..
Dok god nije AC ON duva ok, kad se greje,iako sam primetio da malo slabije duva nego pre,a kad je ac on u lo duva on malo bolje al to nije ni blizu kako treba,kao sto rekoh jedva ohladi ceo auto za 20m na max fan speed..
Re: Cmax '05 1.6 tdci - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: četvrtak, 9. maj 2019. u 00:03h
od Almighty.shO
A kamo je usmeren vazduh (noge, soferka, napred, ili sva tri)?
A kamo je usmeren vazduh (noge, soferka, napred, ili sva tri)?
Samo u napred,kad upalim napred i noge kao da je iskljucena..
Re: Cmax '05 1.6 tdci - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: četvrtak, 9. maj 2019. u 01:07h
od mbole
Ajmo polako... prvo nisam bas siguran za sta koristis termin "duva"? Kao da ga koristis i za "hladi", i za kolicinu vazduha koja prolazi.
Drugo, u auto rezimu, sistem sam odredjuje kuda usmerava vazduh. Opet u zavisnosti od raznih parametara, to moze da bude sasvim razlicito rasporedjeno. Air distribution: Automatic mode
In automatic mode the air distribution setting is determined on the basis of the driver requests as a function of the following input variables:
l Passenger compartment temperature
l Ambient temperature
l Sun load
l Air conditioning status
l Coolant temperature
l Vehicle speed
Cold air comes out of the instrument panel air nozzles during air conditioning operation. During warm-up phase warm air is directed into the footwell.
When the vehicle and the engine are cold air is directed onto the windshield to prevent cold air from entering the footwell.
Once the selected temperature has been reached, the air is directed out through the footwell vents and demister vents.
When the air conditioning system is switched off (no A/C symbol) the air flow is directed into the footwell to prevent the windows from misting up.
Maximum cooling is provided by adjusting the air recirculation flap.
Pa se u to jos guraju eco mode, defrost...
Trece, probaj auto dijagnostiku da vidis hoce li nesto da ispise: Various special service modes for the two-zone air conditioning can be accessed by pressing certain button combinations on the control unit.
l Reading out a stored Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC): The DTC is shown in the two zone air conditioning system with automatic temperature control. To read out stored trouble codes, press the "OFF" button and the "Air distribution flap - footwell" button for two seconds. Release the buttons and then press the "Air distribution flap - centre vent" button after no more than 1.5 seconds.
l Activating self-diagnosis: Starting a self-test (recalibration has been performed). Any faults found are displayed in the form of trouble codes on both displays. Press the "OFF" button and the "Air distribution flap - footwell" button for two seconds. Release both buttons and then press the "Auto" button within 1.5 seconds.
l Software version. Display on both displays: Press the "OFF" button and the "Footwell" button for two seconds, then release the buttons and press "A/C ".
l To delete the trouble codes and exit the diagnostic mode press the "Defrost" button. To exit the diagnostic mode without deleting the trouble codes press any other button.
Zapisi i NEMOJ da obrises greske. Trebace majstoru koji bude radio.
Pa ako prijavljuje neku gresku, daj ovde da vidimo sta je (prevelika je tabela da je celu postavljam)
Ajmo polako... prvo nisam bas siguran za sta koristis termin "duva"? Kao da ga koristis i za "hladi", i za kolicinu vazduha koja prolazi.
Drugo, u auto rezimu, sistem sam odredjuje kuda usmerava vazduh. Opet u zavisnosti od raznih parametara, to moze da bude sasvim razlicito rasporedjeno. Air distribution: Automatic mode
In automatic mode the air distribution setting is determined on the basis of the driver requests as a function of the following input variables:
l Passenger compartment temperature
l Ambient temperature
l Sun load
l Air conditioning status
l Coolant temperature
l Vehicle speed
Cold air comes out of the instrument panel air nozzles during air conditioning operation. During warm-up phase warm air is directed into the footwell.
When the vehicle and the engine are cold air is directed onto the windshield to prevent cold air from entering the footwell.
Once the selected temperature has been reached, the air is directed out through the footwell vents and demister vents.
When the air conditioning system is switched off (no A/C symbol) the air flow is directed into the footwell to prevent the windows from misting up.
Maximum cooling is provided by adjusting the air recirculation flap.
Pa se u to jos guraju eco mode, defrost...
Trece, probaj auto dijagnostiku da vidis hoce li nesto da ispise: Various special service modes for the two-zone air conditioning can be accessed by pressing certain button combinations on the control unit.
l Reading out a stored Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC): The DTC is shown in the two zone air conditioning system with automatic temperature control. To read out stored trouble codes, press the "OFF" button and the "Air distribution flap - footwell" button for two seconds. Release the buttons and then press the "Air distribution flap - centre vent" button after no more than 1.5 seconds.
l Activating self-diagnosis: Starting a self-test (recalibration has been performed). Any faults found are displayed in the form of trouble codes on both displays. Press the "OFF" button and the "Air distribution flap - footwell" button for two seconds. Release both buttons and then press the "Auto" button within 1.5 seconds.
l Software version. Display on both displays: Press the "OFF" button and the "Footwell" button for two seconds, then release the buttons and press "A/C ".
l To delete the trouble codes and exit the diagnostic mode press the "Defrost" button. To exit the diagnostic mode without deleting the trouble codes press any other button.
Zapisi i NEMOJ da obrises greske. Trebace majstoru koji bude radio.
Pa ako prijavljuje neku gresku, daj ovde da vidimo sta je (prevelika je tabela da je celu postavljam)
Pa mislim na duva kad kazem na maks ocekujes da vazduh siba u tebe da te glava zaboli, a ovde jedva pod rukama osetis kad duva na maks u tebe,probacu kasnije ovaj self diagnostic pa javljam,hvala.
Re: Cmax '05 1.6 tdci - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: četvrtak, 9. maj 2019. u 11:30h
od vidovac
Uzmi manuelno nasteluj ventilator na najjace pa vidi koliko jako duva. Kad je u auto modu mislim da nikad ne ukljuci ventilator na najace.
Ajmo polako... prvo nisam bas siguran za sta koristis termin "duva"? Kao da ga koristis i za "hladi", i za kolicinu vazduha koja prolazi.
Drugo, u auto rezimu, sistem sam odredjuje kuda usmerava vazduh. Opet u zavisnosti od raznih parametara, to moze da bude sasvim razlicito rasporedjeno. Air distribution: Automatic mode
In automatic mode the air distribution setting is determined on the basis of the driver requests as a function of the following input variables:
l Passenger compartment temperature
l Ambient temperature
l Sun load
l Air conditioning status
l Coolant temperature
l Vehicle speed
Cold air comes out of the instrument panel air nozzles during air conditioning operation. During warm-up phase warm air is directed into the footwell.
When the vehicle and the engine are cold air is directed onto the windshield to prevent cold air from entering the footwell.
Once the selected temperature has been reached, the air is directed out through the footwell vents and demister vents.
When the air conditioning system is switched off (no A/C symbol) the air flow is directed into the footwell to prevent the windows from misting up.
Maximum cooling is provided by adjusting the air recirculation flap.
Pa se u to jos guraju eco mode, defrost...
Trece, probaj auto dijagnostiku da vidis hoce li nesto da ispise: Various special service modes for the two-zone air conditioning can be accessed by pressing certain button combinations on the control unit.
l Reading out a stored Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC): The DTC is shown in the two zone air conditioning system with automatic temperature control. To read out stored trouble codes, press the "OFF" button and the "Air distribution flap - footwell" button for two seconds. Release the buttons and then press the "Air distribution flap - centre vent" button after no more than 1.5 seconds.
l Activating self-diagnosis: Starting a self-test (recalibration has been performed). Any faults found are displayed in the form of trouble codes on both displays. Press the "OFF" button and the "Air distribution flap - footwell" button for two seconds. Release both buttons and then press the "Auto" button within 1.5 seconds.
l Software version. Display on both displays: Press the "OFF" button and the "Footwell" button for two seconds, then release the buttons and press "A/C ".
l To delete the trouble codes and exit the diagnostic mode press the "Defrost" button. To exit the diagnostic mode without deleting the trouble codes press any other button.
Zapisi i NEMOJ da obrises greske. Trebace majstoru koji bude radio.
Pa ako prijavljuje neku gresku, daj ovde da vidimo sta je (prevelika je tabela da je celu postavljam)
Ovo izbaci i u prvom i u drugom slucaju
Re: Cmax '05 1.6 tdci - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: četvrtak, 9. maj 2019. u 12:54h
od mbole
Kao da ti nije uspelo da udjes u dijagnostiku.
Plus lici da si pritisnuo defrost, iako nije pozeljno da brises postojece greske, kako bi majstor imao sta da vidi.
No... idi kod majstora, pa ce on vec videti sta mu je.
Re: Cmax '05 1.6 tdci - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: četvrtak, 9. maj 2019. u 13:11h
od M.S420
Nisam defrost pritiskao,odradi on sve i samo ovako izbaci..Moracu..
Re: Cmax '05 1.6 tdci - Problem sa klimom
Poslato: četvrtak, 9. maj 2019. u 13:23h
od mbole
Na kraju sam ostavi upaljen defrost?
Odradi sve??? Sta odradi sve? Jel ispisuje nesto u medjuvremenu, pa ovo ostane na kraju ?
